Everybody just want to do a quick review on the 510 guide. Teni just order these off of amazon. Wanted something for canyoning for slick rock just so i wasn't slipping. Around on you know the rocks and need. Some good grip these are awesome for hiking approach. Shoes they've got the super sticky. Stealth rubber and you know that's going. To be really awesome for those canyon walls and it's a really good build. Quality i just got these from fedex. Today the guy dropped me off and you. Now these are awesome shoes i. Just had to run a Walmart really quickly. So I've only had them on for like 30 minutes but man they are already so comfortable, and they're not going to be. A problem for you know those long days and i think you know when I've got a few. Hours in them they're going to be even better once they're broken in so yeah i. Think these are really good shoes and. Can't wait to take them out.

Today we're going to check out the 5/10. High angle the high angle is a great. Choice for those looking to push into steeper climbing they offer a great. Balance between performance cost and. Comfort the sizing is kind of small so. If you know your size another 5-10 models its worth going up par for size from this the heel is a little on the. Baggy side for me so not great for really technical heel hooking but it's strong edging performance and moderate down turn design make the high angle a good shoe for steep pocketed limestone. You. You.

The 510 high-angle is one of the most. Comfortable of 510s downturned climbing. Shoes the high angle allows you the. Comfort for all-day climbing yet is aggressive enough to tackle steep overhanging routes the unlined leather. Upper is designed to stretch about a half a size to multi your foot and the single velcro strap is designed for comfort and ease of access the stealth. C4 outsole is thicker than most downturn. Shoes giving the stiffest profile and a 5/10 aggressive line and a supportive feel on your foot.

Hi guys today i will be reviewing the last 40 the future at climbing shoes personally these are my go to shoes on a. Daily basis while climbing indoors outdoors it's a little bit different but more on that later known to most the. Futures are last 40 va's no edge state-of-the-art shoe that is the rubber. Edge found in traditional climbing shoes is illuminated for a more rounded shoe edge that is meant to promote closer contact with the rock it is a down turd aggressive shoe that is most often useful drink especially is kept cool my. First ballet shoes is all the blogs that i read inline mention that you have to relearn how to climb with no id shoes however the last 40 50 trees. Significantly improved by climbing from the get-go as i was able to gauge footholds i was on much better after two. Years of climbing what the future is no i choose i find it very difficult to switch back to any other shoe but i do find myself having to switch to other shoes under some circumstances although the future to serve their purpose on all the types of interval during this includes subs this certainly isn't the case outdoors especially when you're not on rock formation despite the three. Millimeter vibram rubber on the last four team of futures which is one of the spookiest rubbers that you can get slabs and top house become increasingly difficult outdoors i found out the downturn the shoe in combination with you know edge give very little leverage when smearing some claim that this. Actually should be better for smearing but i certainly found otherwise when climbing outdoors and when I've tried on other shoes which are less aggressive I've had much better experience climbing slabs and popping out the biggest criticism might have for the last 40 to future is actually the fast lacing system although the lacing system itself is great lace tears down quite quickly and can actually tear in a lot of cases this pair is an old pair that i used to. Wear and I've worn them for six months I'll demonstrate the problem on them so. As you'll see here the lace is a little. But torn and that's because it rubs against the middle island would be fastening the lace causing way down a trick i found a strap sellotape around the lake area which is most often conflict with the eyelid which is this bit for me right here and this should reduce the laser region but as it turns out veal asked for cheaper solutions and geniuses also have similar problems with their lacing systems so don't let this discourages you for buying this shoe the owners and criticism i have for this shoe is that the friction on the heel is lacking group wise leaving much to be desired. However the fit of the heel itself tightly wraps around your foot almost giving you a suction like fit and you can definitely expect it to not slip off overall i5h is extremely comfortable and. Soft they take very little time to break in and compassion to other shoes, and they really fit like a glove i only have to side down one european size but I've talked to others who have to side down to sizes at most though but i think that. Largely depends on your poor shape i have quite an arch foot in comparison to others who have flatter feet and are more prone to stretching out the shoe these are my favourite climbing shoes and i would highly recommend them for anyone looking for an everyday interval during shoe.

So yeah this is mad rocks flagship shoe it's called the redline a lot of really innovative features have the clutch heel. Which works kind of like a chinstrap that gives you the adjust ability and the control of putting it to where you need it also a pretty aggressive downturn. Shoe pretty interesting downturn shoe it's not downturn throughout the whole shoe it's just downturn throughout the toe box that allows the heel to work by itself and not affect the heel and the fit of the heel also we're still using the proven arch flex a design that just. Worked really well for us in the past shoes with different tensioning specific to this shoe this is not a specifically outdoor shoe but it's its driven and. Built for outdoor climbing it does climb very well indoors as well but. You're gonna see its true potential outside on all different terrain slab. Overhanging pockets crimps and micro. Diamond for sure a lot of power in the shoe also introduced a compression tongue so the tongue is designed with elastic to squeeze the top of your foot down this shoe actually works really well as a slipper unlaced but also you're getting that added control and fit and feel with that lace i really wanted to give matt rock a chance to put. Ourselves out there and show this industry what we can produce and then. Also within the shoe i really wanted to make a complete shoe i really felt like you know with climbing shoes and how there had been made for the last 20 years we really get a good fit in the toe box area but the struggling area has always been the heel so my goal was to make a complete shoe from heel to toe and then also stylizing it really making. It really loud really different than anything else that's been out there a lot of design cues from race cars some people have come in and say wow that looks like a Jordan a michael Jordan shoe and that's where I've got a lot of the influence from you know I've always respected michael Jordan shoes waited in. Line to get the shoes and you know i put a little bit of that into rock climbing you know it does have an aggressive look and an aggressive profile to it but it's an extremely comfortable shoe and it doesn't come at. The expense of performance so yeah we. Are continuing to make pretty comfortable shoes but that still perform the way you need them perform a lot has to do with the lining this is a line high-end shoe a lot of the higher-end shoes are not lined they're just let you know put your foot in it let it conform a lot of the idea behind this shoe is to have the fit be consistent. From when it comes out of the box to a month or two down the line and. Especially when you're actually using the shoe to maintain the power and put everything where it needs to be we did use 4.1 millimeters sole rubber here rx5. Formula our competitors don't necessarily use that thick of rubber but i think it adapts to the style of each climber so if you are a bit of a beginner climber and you're getting into experiencing the high performance end of the shoe line you're not gonna get screwed by you know having the shoe blowout on you that fast or having a rubber wear out on you within reason i mean it is a it is a tool that we're using, and they do wear down like a kitchen knife we knew exactly what we wanted, and we work a compromise, so we. Were just right after it's pretty awesome we're really proud of it's like it generated a lot of buzzes a lot of. People that would normally never step foot in a and a mad rock booth came down to check the shoe out this is a performer this i think is gonna do really well for us if you are gonna be seeing a lot of cool things coming from this company for sure and with a whole. New styling and a whole new attitude, and we're hoping to turn some heads.

So this shoe is entry level shoe from a. Price point perspective retail for $89. With the success of the lotus and the lyra we really found that a lot of men have low volume feet as well so my goal. From an entry level standpoint wasn't to have a man's and a woman's might have it genders specific i wanted it to be fit specific so it gave you a lot of options people that are just getting involved in. Climbing one comfort they don't want to have their feet smushed in order to get the performance you really want to have a snug fit so what we decided to do was to have a pulse positive which is the. Blue here it's a normal volume shoe and then the post negative which is the low. Volume version of that shoe so you really get a really good fitting system because you know for example i wear a size 8 and if i really wanted a comfort. Comfortable fit i would put a blue shoe on the positive if i wanted a little bit. More performance without that constricting feeling on my foot the post negative will definitely allow me to get that performance and that's without downsizing so what makes this. Shoe kind of stand out is the uppers made out of synthetic mesh very breathable and then double lined with polyester fleece for comfort we added. This slingshot rand for performance and. For fit, we have a conforming tongue. Which really hugs the top of your foot we took the idea and the heel from the flash a really successful shoe of ours, and we gave it to the pulse it has an e. Be a shock pad system and then the. Overall styling is very sports sneaker driven tpr laminate on the top for. Styling and also for high wear areas for durability a lot of people that are getting into climbing they shopped for sneakers a lot more than climbing shoes, so we really wanted to make it pop out and stand out from the rest of the shoes out there something that they can really gravitate to and feel a little comfortable with generally what we've been doing here at mad rock is like trying to get people to get their street shoe size at least starting there with the technology and the materials and how things are being produced and made and the shoe. Will stretch about a half size depending on how tight you get them it's not gonna blow out on you and become really baggy this tpr top detailing is what kind of. Keeps it together as well so it's pretty. Cool how it all kind of comes together i think this shoe is definitely a high-performance shoe it can be so it's a bit of best of both worlds it's at a great price yeah i think it's going to be a very popular shoe in the next year. You.

I'm kenny from madrid climbing so we. Have the new madrid a wire here newest. Addition to our family it is our soft issue in our lineup. Currently so a lot of new things and. Exciting things about this shoe this year is a new technology traditionally. We've been known for like making molded parts but it's been kind of small and. Kind of confined to the heel area so for. The heel molds like this still very difficult to do right but you're trying to make sticky climbing rubber flow in the mold and it's really hard to make it flow up into a mold with like fully. Cured rubber or non climbing grade rubber it is easy to do molds like this it's not too hard, but we're able to design a way in production to make the climbing rubber flow up into the mold to make this like big shape because with such a soft shoe. Like no mid sole whatsoever and then this new upper fabric called flow net we. Needed to add structure to the shoe, and we didn't want to do that by layering rubbers or tensioning rubbers too much so that's why we came up with the molded toe box so traditionally like ltos are. Made like from a rubber sheet and then you have to like punch out the shapes of the outsole and then you put it onto the shoes itself, so we try to get. It as closes as possible to reduce waste as much as possible but you are still. Gonna have a lot of waste you know from those cut out portions so with this kind. Of technology, you can make the climbing mold climbing rubber flow into the mold kind of exactly how much you need. Basically we'll have some excess that we'll have to you know kind of cut or like grind off it's not very much not as much as you would see in a climbing shoe basically so in one way it's more. Sustainable and also it's easier for labor and production so instead of. Having to put a ran rubber and then an outsole on the shoes you're just using one molded part to put into the shoe so. It saves time it saves you know from. Wasting produced and it has a lot of performance benefits as well so what it. Does is also we have that patented concave sole so that's patented for us so it's gonna have that shape and it's also the downturn as well so this is its. Original shape so it's gonna try to hold this shape so with all the other like even our shoes like we tried to tension. The rubber to keep the downturn to keep that concave so but eventually like. Things start to break down right and it starts to flatten and it's not as downturn as before or anything like that but with this is the original shape. So it's gonna stay like that for the life of the shoe for the performance aspect we're also able to put different. Rubber thicknesses into different parts of the mid sole so wherever you need more. Support you'll get it wherever you don't need as much support like in the center here you don't have as much brother the. Other good thing about this molded sole is that it's a increases durability so. In like a typical downturn shoes it's. Prone to delamination right at the toe because it's under so much tension so it's trying to split itself apart from the ran rubber and in the sole part so. You get that little like talking mouth right at the front of them but this one. Because it's molded there is no weakness there's no seam at that point your foot. Is actually closer to the rock then you would be like other traditionally made climbing shoes typically the ran rubber. Is like two millimeters or more in thickness outsole is like three two some. Brands do even 5 millimeters in thickness so that convenient anywhere between like 6 millimeters to 8. Millimeters of rubber between you and the rock so with this in the high wear. Areas we have up to 5 millimeters so you. Are closer to the rock and this 5 millimeters all climbing grade rubber so. When you're wearing it down even past 4. Millimeters you have climbing rover still left over after the time so more durable better for. Performance more sustainable so with the. Mold we had the opportunity to add whatever we wanted to the mold with sol, so we decided to do this like micro texture on the top and the sides of the shoes what this does is that gives it some added friction so if. There's texture on the holes like you know or you know climbing surfaces it's. Gonna try to grab that texture and give you added friction that you need I've tested it myself and it does stick a little bit better than this smooth stuff and then for the actual shoe the other. Parts of it we do have it lines underneath the this part only and then. The heel part as well because the nip. Fabric is so soft and so stretchy if we. Didn't have this molded technology and if we use this knit fabric without the. Lining the shoe would be too soft like to sock like i know some people like. That but we need some performance to kind of support your weight on edges and for you to be able to like grab the holes and the shoe to be able to hold its shape so with the molded parts. That's why we're able to use this such soft breathable mid-upper the other. Parts of the shoes like the heel is molded as well it's got the expandable. Designs it's an expandable design here as well so it starts off with the kind. Of a narrow fit and if you have a wider foot it expands to accommodate same. Think for the heel as well it's got that cut if you have that small heel it's fine if you have a bigger heel cup it'll expand to accommodate the strap is laminated it's not stitched like other. Shoes so what happens is like if you do have a really like low volume foot or skinny foot you're in enough velcroing it down you can cut it and customize it. To anywhere basically a lot of our athletes. Complained that the pull-tabs were too small they're using their pinkies to get their shoes on, so we give them a really big pool tough for them to pull on but. And it is like with the soft pva so it's really nice and friendly big and it's. Pre tension so it doesn't go down and interfere with any heel hooks basically yeah and then last we have this like. Heel ran rubber this looks like two. Different layers but it's actually just one so what it's doing is it's actually wrapping and gluing down here so it's. Creating that torsional rigidity and. Some like tension toward the inner big toe so hey wires gonna be available in. October this year 2018 and the price is 125 retail rieslings can be done if you. Have a experienced tree solar they can grind the sole part off, and they can do a result traditionally if they want to it obviously won't have the. Molded aspect of it you'll lose that but. It can be resold but if resellers are interested they can purchase the molded part so it'll take a. Little bit of training, but they're able to grind or heat up the shoes so. They can tear the sole off and just add another one on basically yeah initially there's a big investment up front so you. Have to pay for the molding the tooling fees, but we're trying to go for volume right, so we'll end up using this mole for other shoes just like we have our. This heel mold is available in three different models as well, so we try to. Pay for that mold buy by volume of the shoes we've always been you know proponents of like fair pricing there is a huge initial cost, but we tried to mitigate that you know. Sacrificing our margin — you know. Penetrate the market get it into onto the shelves at a reasonable price because in the end i that it's a fair price for us — 125 for this shoe i think. It is what the shoe should cost and you. No like we're not skimping on the moles we're now having just one mole for the entire size range so like this particular one here you can see that it's a 7 to 9 so one mole will take care of a small range, and then we have other moles for the other sizes i don't think any other brand does this even with their mole departs i think we're the only ones that. Do different moles for different sizes this many anyways yes i think we have. Anywhere between six day molds per model or per piece so it fits properly we try. To maximize the benefit of the mid fabric by taking it all the way to almost to your big toe knuckle here so like i said you are getting that benefit like it this does fit a huge range of. Foot shapes like ii it's this one is stuff but if you get one that's not stuffed with a filling it starts off. Kind of like this it's kind of closed and if your foot is not wide enough to expand that it's just gonna stay like that but if your foots wide enough then you'll it'll expand the fit so i think. We're one of the few companies are taking maximum advantage of dissonant fabric because we're not lining it at all there's no liner so you could only. Get this kind of structure and this kind of power with what the molded part so. Give it that bone skeleton basically yeah we did a lot of testing with our athletes, and we have a pretty good pool of like different foot shapes and sizes so it's its been received pretty well all the way from low volume feet all the way to high volume feet, so we're anticipating for this model should we should have one model not traditional like low volume high volume that we've done in the past.

I am been brands me I'm here with the evolve spark this is actually my shoe I've had it for a couple of months now been tried climbing it having a great time because

Now this is where a black diamond. Climbing shoe box and then we thought of. See this day but black diamond has gone. Into the climbing shoe business and they. Just launched this back in june now i. Was supposed to do a full on full review. In a month for the new momentum shoe that's the one i bought and wanted to test out and give you my opinion about. It but i thought I'll just do a quick update on this after i climbed this. Climb with this for a couple of times and these are my initial impressions so. Check it out so this is a new momentum. Shoe men's at least the ladies comes in. Red and gray and the guys come in blue. And gray it's a nice little stealthy. Shoe that looks like your gym rental yes it is a basic beginner intermediate shoe. Totally rockin now black diamond talks a. Lot about their new weaving aisle here. You look closely is very similar to your. Athletic shoes it's breathable and odor. Free when he needs to and it's nice and. Structural on your heels and on your toe. Box and it stretches when he needs to. Now I've climbed with this a couple of times as i said and i feel like it's a. Little bit tighter than some like my own shoe which was synthetic leather and i. Can remember this after climbing one or. Two sessions it started to loosen up this one my toes do hurts and I'll give you further impressions as. Time goes by but initial impressions. This is less stretchy than your synthetic leather or leather shoes. Obviously now that said this the. Firmness that it comes with it gives it a little bit more control and edging is. Awesome sensitivity is not that great because the soul is flat and thick but. What it does is really well as edging it gives it a pretty good stiffness right here and I've been able to step on. Really small holes that i couldn't with this small holes on this thing it was. Like a big hole so it's really great now. What any time will tell what the velcro is gonna do whether it was fitting to the ends or things like that as velcro straps tend to do but it seems. Like it's built on two separate levels there's the velcro and stitching right. Underneath a inset of a leather tab so i. Think longevity might be good here the. Other part is that they always they talked about with this knitting is odor. Free or less odor and it will sit we'll. Find out about that now the rubber comes in three different. Kinds that black diamond creates now and. It is this one is the neo friction and i. Hope it holds up well it seems to be on. Par if not better than a lot of. Equivalent brands out there so black. Diamond great go that's my initial. Impression of this shoe I'm gonna keep climbing it in for a few more weeks but I'll update you guys every week and anything i find and do a wrap up at the. And it's so thank you for watching remember to thumb up if you like this video don't. Dump down okay this thumbs up and. Subscribe to this to keep up to date on get kept up to date on gear up reviews. Thanks for watching.

Hi I'm lynn the technical shoe designer here at black diamond and remember last. Year when we introduced the shoe line we had four new models as the initial. Launch of the shoe program and this year we're going to add one model to that range and if you can remember we started. Off with this nice flat all knit shoe. For comfort breath ability and price and. Then what we did was we came up with a. Leather version stiffer and more durable. For more outside long route type of. Climbing the full strength full length. Midsole is stiffer so that will support your feet for longer days climbing and. Then we had a soft high-performance. Mostly indoor are very steep rock climbing shoe called the shadow that allows us to grab and pull with our feet. And then the focus very soon here will. Be on the market is the stiffer version that allows us to have a lot more. Support on smaller holds for the type of climbing where we have more weight on our feet compared to the type of climbing where we're climbing on deeper overhanging rock with a shadow place so. This is the softest shoe in our line and this is the stiffest shoe currently in. Our line the new shoe the zone will fall. Right in the middle and the zone will. Have all the feature benefits of a. Knitted upper in terms of breath ability in terms of quick drying in terms of. Keeping your feet from not sweating too. Much and also comfort but instead of now. Having a flat profile like we did in the. Momentum we're gonna know curl our toes and get it in a much more powerful position in the same position actually the same last and the same shape as our shadow the zone will come in four colors. And two volumes a regular volume and then a low volume. And when we mean by low volume is across. The ball of the foot it's narrower and it's lower volume behind the toes all. The way up to the instep strap lower. Volume in the heel and also low volume in the heel cup, and we want to make sure. That we point out that it's actually a volume difference and not a male-female because we have men who have skinny. Narrower lower volume feet as well and so as you look at the entire color range. The colors are more gender neutral so. That a woman that has a wide foot is. Fine in these colors and then a man with a narrow foot will be finding these colors as well okay so again a cambered shape two straps and. You notice the rear strap here this time is nice and wide so it contains our. Instep better for heel hooking and for. General edging it also has a full length mid sole that's stiff to help support our. Feet on smaller holds so that's the zone coming in spring nineteen retailing for 130 euros. You.

Heisman from black diamond and remember. We launched this line of rock shoes last summer the knit really resonated well. With the public and what we heard was. That they wanted a shoe like this that was built on a more cambered lash to. Give us a better performance really so. That's what the new zone shoe is knit. Upper two straps the instep strap is. Nice and wide to give us better containment here we have rubber print. For toe hooking protection, and we have a shaped mid sole the new zone will be. Available January 1st 2019 the retail. Price in the us is 139 with this shoe. What you're gonna get is a high performance all knit the softest shoe in. Our line in terms of high performance q is the shadow have no mid sole and the. Stiffness will be the focus this has a mid sole it has a nice built up upper so. Gives you better control on small edges and then in the middle we have the focus. So the best all-around sport climbing shoe that we have is this you call the focus I'm sorry this new shoe called the zone we have a regular volume. And then we have a low volume I'm willing about low volume is that it'll be narrower the bottom of this foot here. And low from the back of the toes all. The way to the instep okay and then. Lower heel volume here and. Lower heel arch volume here the reason. Why we won't call it a man's and a. Women's is because advanced climbers are more into the idea of a fit then they. Are specifically men's or women and if. You look at all the colors that we offer the shoes in their gender neutral so you. Can have a wide high volume footed woman. And she'd be okay with these colors and conversely we can have a narrow man. Who would be okay with these colors all. The things we wanted in it we learned. That the public wanted the same exact thing the breath ability the nice next to. Skin the quick drying it breathes so. Well that your feet just don't sweat as much and so end of a bouldering session you're not swimming around inside your of your shoes because of their. Acceptance of the momentum it's why we came up with this shoe if you bought a momentum shoe and you really liked it. But you wanted more performance because now your climbing better you want to graduate up to the zone we do line the knit so that we get a little bit better. Control and edge strength just the knit. Alone as a layer is way more breathable. Then leather or microfiber and a lot of. Leathers and microfiber also get a liner for the exact same reason so it's not. Super different other than the fact that. If you compare apples to apples the knit. Itself is more breathable cooler faster. Drying than the synthetics of any others if you compare lengths these two are the. Same size foot one allows your toes to. Stay flat one allows you to curl your toes and the difference in the two is if. You want power you want to clinch your fist okay and. This is more like clenching your fist to. Getting power into your shoes or your. Foot or this is more of a comfort this. Heel shape is a better fitting heel. Shape than this one and the reason is. That this is a high-performance shoe so. We needed to fit better in this area it. Looks the same but there's been a lot more work into thinning out the rubber. And the stretching it so that it forms to that shape a lot better super higher performance shoes you actually have an. Extra piece, so we can put more tension in different areas to get us the optimal. Fit now we had to do a lot more work with this to get us a fit but it's not. Going to be optimized compared to listen. To focus that's why this is we consider this a. Price point high-performance shoe so the. Perforations of the bottom serve two purposes the first one is it echoes the. Perforations we have in the strap and. This lightens up the strata as a visual cue they tie in to one another and the other thing that's really important is it allows this area of the outsole to be. More elastic so that we can actually put. Tension here so now as you step down on the toes here you're gonna feel tension. All the way to the back of the heel and. It contains our foot gives us more power. In the tails

Hey I'm nathan welcome to the scarpa. Booth so i thought maybe you're here you'd like to see the new model of the vapor so vapor is actually one of our. Most popular climbing shoes mainly because they're very balanced they do a little bit of everything and most people haven't got to the stage where they have three four five pairs of climbing shoes, and they want one climbing shoe that does a little bit of everything they're a seven panel design so most people. Think that the intermediate they're not we've actually got just as many pieces as a drago so and the pattern that. Stitches them is very hard to do it's a very small kicker at the front here you can even see the outline on the shoe and that's because the toe position in vapor is a little bit flatter that's because vapor we really wanted to. Make it an aging and smearing shoe that. Had a good balance between either the first version of the vapor was almost all ever and then the next version of. The vapor was a combination of synthetic and other materials and then the last version of the vapor that we got here is. Synthetic on both sides with a leather at the bottom so the version before i. Had suede leather on the inside here, and we exchanged that from microfiber and. That made the upper a little bit softer as well as we reduce the volume of the tongue and tapered it a little bit so that made the whole shoe a little bit softer, so we put a new plastic insert on the inside and previously. Would have heard that we had flex and plastic inserts we use that a lot from the performance models and the new vapor has a tail and plastic insert and the. Tail is just a little bit stiffer we also extended the plastic up and over the heel so it just gave a little bit more structure to the shoe because changing out the leather for the synthetic softened the upper, and we didn't want to change the characteristic of the shoe very much for climbing we just really wanted to make it a little bit more comfortable and a little less of breaking in period but the same performance one of the other things that you'll notice it's got a excess grip to. Here with two layers so that's something that we previously did on the instinct model and a lot of people really liked it, so we put this onto the model it adds a little bit more labor but it gives the heel the ability to. Change shape and obviously it gives the best rubber for heel hooking on the other side so overall we improved. Basically the characteristics so the. Shoe could break in a little bit faster but in the end the shoe remains on the. Same last with the same shape and just a. Color update and a softening of the upper and a stiffening of the mid sole the vapor woman's and the vapor men's. Are on different lasts so they have. Different rubbers so you'll see this sample prototypes got excess edge it's actually excess group two on the women's and it's excess edge on the men's but. That's not really the biggest difference the biggest difference is the total volume of the shoe so especially in the heel the volume is a lot narrower and more sculptured on the female version than it is on the male i mean a. Lot of people are choosing the shoes off the outside looks it's not what we want. We want them to look inside and climb with the shoe but in the end the velcro. Strap looked a little bit nicer with a little bit of 3d print pulling it out the strapless is the same we did insert. A piece of elastic in the middle here just to kind of keep that flat and keep. A real snug fit because we felt the straps just pulled in two points and the middle point didn't get pulled in enough so that's why the velcro versions. Changed slightly on either side we did a lot of changes on it in the hope that we. Would make it more comfortable but changed nothing about the characteristic of the shoe and you know in the end that meant that we changed the whole mid sole the shape and the plastic so it's its. Probably it is yeah it's a totally. Different shoe with the same characteristic when you climb but um i think it shows that you can't just fit all with one layer and not affect the whole shoot so each layer has an. Effect doesn't matter what you do even just changing the material will change the way it comes out at 2019 and. The price is a moderate increase but i. Think it's marginal five bucks ten. Bucks yeah, so we tried as much as we could to keep the same price but obviously there's a little bit more work especially in the heel it's gone from a single layer here or to a dual layer. Excess grip here so it takes a little. But more work to do that most people. Just don't realize how much work goes into the climbing shoes if you put a relative price on the climbing shoes compared to some of the other shoes that the margins are actually pretty small they take a long time to make and. There's a lot of handwork in them, but we're capped by having the most expensive prices on the market i think people just don't understand how long it takes, and we've got you know 38 of our. 39 models are all made in italy, so we haven't got the alternative of cheaper manufacturing or anything like that.

Hi I'm john i have in my hand here a. Mamet ridge low gore-tex approach you so. What's this design for well it's got a very stable sole unit so it like. Lengthwise it will flex but not overly but torsion ally it's very stable this. This shoe has been designed for steep. Rocky rugged terrain so that's why it's. Called approach for approaching cliffs it's also got a really clever outsole whether the lugs are designed to grip really well going uphill and grip. Equally, well going downhill to give you a great anchor on the surface and. It's also high friction in terms of the. Sole unit it's a double density and then. It in a shoe like this you don't want a squidgy sole unit because you want the shoe to feel stable but you still have. To have enough shock absorption to take the impact out of your joint which this will do beautifully the upper is then. Very robust this is built to last so that the nose is rubber all these. Materials are designed to protect you. And hold you anything that laces down to. The toe like this does always fits really nicely over the metatarsals because you can adjust it so this will be very comfortable and in the heel to give you even more comfort and a better fit they put memory foam which will shape and customize to your fit over time so this shoe is designed to last. It's designed to give you sensitivity it's designed to go where the ground is rough it is fully waterproof it has a. Full gore-tex sock inside it and it's a. Really highly competent well engineered. Piece of kit for a mum who excel at making footwear for mountaineers but. Don't just think this is from out in ears anything that's designed to do what this will do will just make a great everyday. Shoe for outdoor use so i give you the. Mum up route low cortex thank you for watching have a lovely summer and have lots of adventures thank you. You.